Below is a list of Members of Congress who voted for the healthcare Obamanation despite polls that showed a substantial majority of Americans opposed it. It should be understood that a few may represent districts in which a majority favored the bill. In that case, they voted as they should have as representatives of the people of their district. Their votes would not catagorize them as America's enemies, as traitors to the American people and the Republic. However, since these would likely be in a very small minority, I'm willing to accept the possibility of a 5 or 10% error and classify them all as traitors to, and enemies of, the American republic.
I have no qualms about so classing 8th District Congressman Patrick Murphy as an enemy of America and of the American people and, yes, as a traitor. In a “Town Meeting” in which Murphy was promoting the bill, it was pointed out that the majority of the people were opposed. The Congressman [Gauleiter] made it plain that even if the majority of his constituents opposed a bill, if he thought it was a good bill, it was his duty as a “leader” to vote for it. He also applied that philosophy to his votes for cap and trade and the bail outs. Murphy has rejected republican principles of representative government for the leadership principle of Nazi Germany. We elected him to represent us and he has arrogated to himself the role of leader (Fuehrer). I'm sure that applies to most in this list.
Yea : 219 Members
Vic Snyder (D-AR)
Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ)
Raul Grijalva (D-AZ)
Ann Kirkpatrick (D-AZ)
Harry Mitchell (D-AZ)
Ed Pastor (D-AZ)
Joe Baca (D-CA)
Xavier Becerra (D-CA)
Howard Berman (D-CA)
Lois Capps (D-CA)
Dennis Cardoza (D-CA)
Judy Chu (D-CA)
Jim Costa (D-CA)
Susan Davis (D-CA)
Anna Eshoo (D-CA)
Sam Farr (D-CA)
Bob Filner (D-CA)
John Garamendi (D-CA)
Jane Harman (D-CA)
Michael Honda (D-CA)
Barbara Lee (D-CA)
Zoe Lofgren (D-CA)
Doris Matsui (D-CA)
Jerry McNerney (D-CA)
George Miller (D-CA)
Grace Napolitano (D-CA)
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA)
Laura Richardson (D-CA)
Lucille Roybal-Allard (D-CA)
Linda Sanchez (D-CA)
Loretta Sanchez (D-CA)
Adam Schiff (D-CA)
Brad Sherman (D-CA)
Jackie Speier (D-CA)
Fortney Stark (D-CA)
Mike Thompson (D-CA)
Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Diane Watson (D-CA)
Henry Waxman (D-CA)
Lynn Woolsey (D-CA)
Diana DeGette (D-CO)
Betsy Markey (D-CO)
Ed Perlmutter (D-CO)
Jared Polis (D-CO)
John Salazar (D-CO)
Joe Courtney (D-CT)
Rosa DeLauro (D-CT)
Jim Himes (D-CT)
John Larson (D-CT)
Christopher Murphy (D-CT)
F. Allen Boyd (D-FL)
Corrine Brown (D-FL)
Kathy Castor (D-FL)
Alan Grayson (D-FL)
Alcee Hastings (D-FL)
Ron Klein (D-FL)
Suzanne Kosmas (D-FL)
Kendrick Meek (D-FL)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL)
Sanford Bishop (D-GA)
Henry Johnson (D-GA)
John Lewis (D-GA)
David Scott (D-GA)
Mazie Hirono (D-HI)
Leonard Boswell (D-IA)
Bruce Braley (D-IA)
David Loebsack (D-IA)
Melissa Bean (D-IL)
Jerry Costello (D-IL)
Danny Davis (D-IL)
Bill Foster (D-IL)
Luis Gutierrez (D-IL)
Deborah Halvorson (D-IL)
Phil Hare (D-IL)
Jesse Jackson (D-IL)
Mike Quigley (D-IL)
Bobby Rush (D-IL)
Janice Schakowsky (D-IL)
Andre Carson (D-IN)
Joe Donnelly (D-IN)
Brad Ellsworth (D-IN)
Baron Hill (D-IN)
Peter Visclosky (D-IN)
Dennis Moore (D-KS)
John Yarmuth (D-KY)
Michael Capuano (D-MA)
William Delahunt (D-MA)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Edward Markey (D-MA)
James McGovern (D-MA)
Richard Neal (D-MA)
John Olver (D-MA)
John Tierney (D-MA)
Niki Tsongas (D-MA)
Elijah Cummings (D-MD)
Donna Edwards (D-MD)
Steny Hoyer (D-MD)
C.A. Ruppersberger (D-MD)
John Sarbanes (D-MD)
Chris Van Hollen (D-MD)
Michael Michaud (D-ME)
Chellie Pingree (D-ME)
John Conyers (D-MI)
John Dingell (D-MI)
Dale Kildee (D-MI)
Carolyn Kilpatrick (D-MI)
Sander Levin (D-MI)
Gary Peters (D-MI)
Mark Schauer (D-MI)
Bart Stupak (D-MI)
Keith Ellison (D-MN)
Betty McCollum (D-MN)
James Oberstar (D-MN)
Tim Walz (D-MN)
Russ Carnahan (D-MO)
Wm. Lacy Clay (D-MO)
Emanuel Cleaver (D-MO)
Bennie Thompson (D-MS)
G.K. Butterfield (D-NC)
Bob Etheridge (D-NC)
Brad Miller (D-NC)
David Price (D-NC)
Melvin Watt (D-NC)
Earl Pomeroy (D-ND)
Paul Hodes (D-NH)
Carol Shea-Porter (D-NH)
Robert Andrews (D-NJ)
Rush Holt (D-NJ)
Frank Pallone (D-NJ)
Bill Pascrell (D-NJ)
Donald Payne (D-NJ)
Steven Rothman (D-NJ)
Albio Sires (D-NJ)
Martin Heinrich (D-NM)
Ben Lujan (D-NM)
Shelley Berkley (D-NV)
Dina Titus (D-NV)
Gary Ackerman (D-NY)
Tim Bishop (D-NY)
Yvette Clarke (D-NY)
Joseph Crowley (D-NY)
Eliot Engel (D-NY)
John Hall (D-NY)
Brian Higgins (D-NY)
Maurice Hinchey (D-NY)
Steve Israel (D-NY)
Nita Lowey (D-NY)
Dan Maffei (D-NY)
Carolyn Maloney (D-NY)
Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY)
Gregory Meeks (D-NY)
Scott Murphy (D-NY)
Jerrold Nadler (D-NY)
Bill Owens (D-NY)
Charles Rangel (D-NY)
Jose Serrano (D-NY)
Louise McIntosh Slaughter (D-NY)
Paul Tonko (D-NY)
Edolphus Towns (D-NY)
Nydia Velazquez (D-NY)
Anthony Weiner (D-NY)
John Boccieri (D-OH)
Steve Driehaus (D-OH)
Marcia Fudge (D-OH)
Marcy Kaptur (D-OH)
Mary Jo Kilroy (D-OH)
Dennis Kucinich (D-OH)
Tim Ryan (D-OH)
Betty Sutton (D-OH)
Charlie Wilson (D-OH)
Earl Blumenauer (D-OR)
Peter DeFazio (D-OR)
Kurt Schrader (D-OR)
David Wu (D-OR)
Robert Brady (D-PA)
Christopher Carney (D-PA)
Kathy Dahlkemper (D-PA)
Mike Doyle (D-PA)
Chaka Fattah (D-PA)
Paul Kanjorski (D-PA)
Patrick Murphy (D-PA)
Allyson Schwartz (D-PA)
Joe Sestak (D-PA)
Patrick Kennedy (D-RI)
James Langevin (D-RI)
James Clyburn (D-SC)
John Spratt (D-SC)
Steve Cohen (D-TN)
Jim Cooper (D-TN)
Bart Gordon (D-TN)
Henry Cuellar (D-TX)
Lloyd Doggett (D-TX)
Charles Gonzalez (D-TX)
Al Green (D-TX)
Gene Green (D-TX)
Ruben Hinojosa (D-TX)
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX)
Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX)
Solomon Ortiz (D-TX)
Silvestre Reyes (D-TX)
Ciro Rodriguez (D-TX)
Gerry Connolly (D-VA)
James Moran (D-VA)
Tom Perriello (D-VA)
Bobby Scott (D-VA)
Peter Welch (D-VT)
Brian Baird (D-WA)
Norman Dicks (D-WA)
Jay Inslee (D-WA)
Rick Larsen (D-WA)
Jim McDermott (D-WA)
Adam Smith (D-WA)
Tammy Baldwin (D-WI)
Steve Kagen (D-WI)
Ron Kind (D-WI)
Gwen Moore (D-WI)
David Obey (D-WI)
Alan Mollohan (D-WV)
Nick Rahall (D-WV)
You're an asshole.
ReplyDeleteFirst, it's a republic, which means that representatives are supposed to vote in our best interests, not necessarily the way that we would like them to. A democracy, rather, is the form of government where the people vote on individual bills.
Second, you're willing to accept a 5 or 10 % error on calling people traitors? 219 people voted for the bill, so you're willing to erroneously call 20 people traitors and be flippant about it?!
Which is not to mention that the constitution, which you claim to love, defines treason as: "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." That's Article 3, Section 3, so you can suck it.
Here is a slightly more nuanced version of what you are arguing. The tool of broken consent.
ReplyDeletehttp://polifrogblog.blogspot.com/2010/04/brad-miller-and-obama-creating-and.html
Anonymous, thank you so much for skipping your MENSA meeting to honor us with your comment. Such a brilliant display of intellect can only lead me to conclude that you are posting anonymously out of modesty or shyness and not because you're a coward.
ReplyDeleteYou did make a couple of mistakes, however. A republic is a representative democracy. Since we can't all go to Washington to vote on every issue, we elect REPRESENTATIVES to do that for us. This means that, if they believe a bill is good but their constituencies oppose it, they should try to convince the constituencies with facts and sound reasoning. Failure to do so, or if the people realize that the arguments are deliberate deception, then they should vote according to the wishes of the people.
Secondly, yes! I am willing to take the "chance" to make people realize just what we have in Congress now. Have you ever asked what the percentage of "collateral" damage our "representatives" are accepting in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, and any other place where we are killing people in the name of "democracy."
Finally, I see no conflict between the Constitution and my defining those people as traitors. Certainly, in supporting such a bill imposed on the people, they are giving aid and comfort to our enemies - Obama and his handlers included.
Please ask whoever reads these posts and blogs to you to do so more slowly. Maybe you'll have a better understanding.
polifrog, I'll have to get back to you. For whatever reason, when I try to visit your blog it's garbled. I'll try later today or tomorrow. I have a feeling it's something I want to read.
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polifrog, I've copied that post to my files. Unfortunately, it's too typical. We have a Republic in name only. It died a long time ago. Also unfortunate is that, even when we replace the traitors from one party, the "other" party has someone ready to continue destroying the Constitution, our Economy, and our very national sovereignty.
ReplyDeleteI fear you are correct...but I have hope.
ReplyDeleteShort term...
Both parties will have lost power in November for the same reason over the past two years. Conservatives over spent and grew gov then lost power to the liberals who ran as fiscal conservatives but have governed opposite their billing. They will lose power in November.
Conservatives have a chance to redefine themselves after November. If they don't, you are correct, as I don't see a third party in the offing.
Short therm arguments are often typical.
Long term...
In the history of our country there is no period in which individual liberty has increased. Individual liberty has only decreased. The same goes for state liberty. Unfortunately, I see no history that points to you being incorrect.